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  1. Info-Atari16 Digest         Sat, 15 Jun 91       Volume 91 : Issue 334
  2.  
  3. Today's Topics:
  4.                           Dave Small's email
  5.                     Demo of 15 gray levels on ST.
  6.                          DMJ_GIF 2.0 request!
  7.                     GCC -g and G++ bogon alert!?!
  8.                     inaccessability of GEM on boot
  9.                              MONITOR SALE
  10.                      SIMMFIX & 2.5 Megs Ram (STE)
  11.           SPECTRE GCR (mac emulator for ATARI ST)  For sale
  12.  
  13. Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest.  The configuration for the automatic
  14. cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed
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  26.  
  27. Date: Sat, 15 Jun 91 18:30:11 WET DST
  28. From: "Ian McCall (Scorpion)" <csd015@central1.lancaster.ac.uk>
  29. Subject: Dave Small's email
  30. To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
  31.  
  32. Does anyone have this? I tried sending mail to the address posted
  33. recently, but it bounced, and now I don't know whether that was because
  34. I had the address wrong or because it really is an unkown host. Can
  35. someone please tell me again?
  36.  
  37.  
  38. Cheers,
  39.         Ian McCall (csd015@uk.ac.lancs.cent1)
  40.  
  41. ------------------------------
  42.  
  43. Date: 15 Jun 91 00:02:25 GMT
  44. From:
  45.  noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!uc!noc.MR.NET
  46.  !ns!ns!logajan@arizona.edu (John Logajan)
  47. Subject: Demo of 15 gray levels on ST.
  48. To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
  49.  
  50. This is a self contained demo of using "flicker" techniques to produce
  51. 15 gray scale levels on a regular ST (normally only 8 levels are possible.)
  52.  
  53. Uudecode it and de-arc it, and then run it.  It is a classic nude,
  54. for those of you who wish to avoid such nasty stuff.
  55.  
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  506.  v
  507. end
  508. --
  509. - John Logajan @ Network Systems; 7600 Boone Ave; Brooklyn Park, MN 55428
  510. - logajan@ns.network.com, 612-424-4888, Fax 612-424-2853
  511.  
  512. ------------------------------
  513.  
  514. Date: 14 Jun 91 17:08:09 GMT
  515. From:
  516.  noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!think.com!yale.edu!ox.com!math.fu-berli
  517.  n.de!fauern!forwiss.uni-passau.de!eva.fmi.uni-passau.de!iws9060@arizona.edu
  518.  (Thorsten Guenther)
  519. Subject: DMJ_GIF 2.0 request!
  520. To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
  521.  
  522. As I have heard by someone in the net, DMJ_GIF 2.0 is available via GEnie.
  523. But I do not have a GEnie account. Could anyone out there mail it (or post
  524. it, if more people show their interest), please?
  525.  
  526.                                   Thanx in advance,
  527.                                              Thorsten Guenther
  528.                                              aka Weregoose
  529.  
  530. ------------------------------
  531.  
  532. Date: 15 Jun 91 01:11:51 GMT
  533. From: cadence!cadence.com!bammi@uunet.uu.net (Jwahar R. Bammi)
  534. Subject: GCC -g and G++ bogon alert!?!
  535. To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
  536.  
  537. --
  538. bang:   uunet!cadence!bammi                     jwahar r. bammi
  539. domain: bammi@cadence.com
  540. GEnie:  J.Bammi
  541. CIS:    71515,155
  542. In article <hess.676555444@rospc1> hess@rospc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Hauke
  543.  Hess) writes:
  544.  
  545. > If I try to compile the following program with g++:
  546. > #include<stream.h>
  547. > int main(){ cout << "Hello World\n"; }
  548. >
  549. > All works niecly until the link run. Then the linker says: Bogon alert: wrote
  550. > xxx Symbols, yyy expected. And the resulting file is not a TOS executable
  551. > (TOS error 66: not an executable program).
  552. >
  553. > The same happens, when I compile a normal gcc program with the gdb option
  554.  "-g".
  555. > Then there is another number of wrote/expected symbols, but the resulting
  556. > program again is not executable.
  557. >
  558. > Has anyone encountered this problem and perhaps already solved it?
  559. >
  560.  
  561. yes, you need a few updates. this problem, along with a newer gdb etc,
  562. were distributed as update8. the bogon alterts for gcc -g will go away
  563. if you use the patches to ld and sym-ld in update8.zoo. You also need
  564. to apply the diffs to gcc in that update to fully utilize -g. Since
  565. then there have been two update, update9 and update10. update10
  566. contains the diffs to bring up gcc-1.40 on the ST. i recommend using
  567. that. all these updates are available from atari.archive.umich.edu
  568. either via ftp or via their mail request server.
  569.  
  570. cheers,
  571.  
  572.  
  573. --
  574. --
  575. bang:   uunet!cadence!bammi                     jwahar r. bammi
  576. domain: bammi@cadence.com
  577. GEnie:  J.Bammi
  578. CIS:    71515,155
  579.  
  580. ------------------------------
  581.  
  582. Date: 15 Jun 91 19:25:06 GMT
  583. From:
  584.  noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!udel!h
  585.  aven.umd.edu!umbc3.umbc.edu!gmuvax2!scoile@arizona.edu (Steve Coile)
  586. Subject: inaccessability of GEM on boot
  587. To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
  588.  
  589. Could someone please explain why GEM can't be invoked before one arrives at the
  590. desktop?  You can get to TOS, but not GEM, even though they're on the same
  591. chip?!?  HELP!!
  592.  
  593. Steve "Stevers!" Coile                      scoile@gmuvax[{.BITNET|[2].gmu.edu}]
  594.             "Maturity is knowing when and where to act immature"
  595.  
  596. ------------------------------
  597.  
  598. Date: 15 Jun 91 01:47:53 GMT
  599. From:
  600.  noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-
  601.  state.edu!csn!boulder!horton.Colorado.EDU!chuj@arizona.edu (CHU JEFFREY)
  602. Subject: MONITOR SALE
  603. To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
  604.  
  605. I must sell this item:
  606.  
  607.         RGB color monitor SC1224 for the ATARI ST,STE,MEGA.
  608.  
  609.                 $175.00
  610.  
  611. Hardly ever used, only used for game playing otherwise covered
  612. always from dust.  Perfect view, believe JVC made these for ATARI.
  613.  
  614. Leave me mail for more details.
  615.  
  616.                         chuj@horton.colorado.edu
  617.  
  618.  
  619.                                 Jeff
  620.  
  621. ------------------------------
  622.  
  623. Date: 14 Jun 91 16:27:56 GMT
  624. From: garfield!carlos@uunet.uu.net (MiG)
  625. Subject: SIMMFIX & 2.5 Megs Ram (STE)
  626. To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
  627.  
  628. I recently bought two 1meg SIMMS for my STE.  I stuck them in, according
  629. to the instructions in the program SIMMFIX (on atari.archive).  SIMMFIX is
  630. supposed to let you mix 256k and 1meg SIMMS to come up with 2.5megs of RAM.
  631. The problem is that the SIMMFIX program doesn't seem to work.  When I tried
  632. to run it from an auto folder (like the docs say to do), nothing happens, and
  633. the computer thinks it has 4megs, instead of 2.5.  When I ran it from the
  634. desktop, I got the infamous TOS ERROR #35 .
  635.  
  636. Anybody have a working copy of SIMMFIX?
  637. --
  638. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
  639. C. Miguel Borges             |||        Memorial University of Newfoundland
  640. carlos@garfield.cs.mun.ca    ||| ATARI  St. John's, Newfoundland
  641. an630@Cleveland.Freenet.edu / | \       Canada.
  642.  
  643. ------------------------------
  644.  
  645. Date: 14 Jun 91 22:31:40 GMT
  646. From:
  647.  noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!wngai@arizona.edu
  648.  (Wayne Ngai)
  649. Subject: SPECTRE GCR (mac emulator for ATARI ST)  For sale
  650. To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
  651.  
  652.         Hi!  As the subject title have implied, I've a SPECTRE GCR for
  653. sale.  There's nothing wrong with it.  The reason I am selling it is because
  654. I really have not use for it.  I am asking for $300 or best offer.  If you
  655. are interested, please email me.
  656.  
  657. Thanks,
  658. Wayne
  659.  
  660. ------------------------------
  661.  
  662. End of Info-Atari16 Digest
  663. ******************************
  664.